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CLIVE STANLEY BATE
VICTIM OF JEZEBEL?

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but why the change and a walkout?????
WE PUT TO YOU JEZEBEL!

The change at Barry with refusals to join us at the Table, and answer 3 key questions:

 

This part of this letter to the Ministry at Barry is to confront the one fully responsible, to see as a consequence Clive Bate restored to his ministry and the calling of God upheld. With this in mind, the Ministry at Barry was asked three questions in a ministry context, the questions not to be confused with women’s ministry in general:

  1. Have you been ministered to by a woman? (Please note we are not against women’s ministry – this was a rhema question in relation to the following scripture:

 

Revelation 2:20 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.)

 

2.  Has the woman had “words from God” for you?

 

3.. You have made accusations but not in front of witnesses. Are you prepared to do this?

 

No reply has ever been received from these questions. It is the desire of the trustees and the Ministry Overseer that these questions be answered openly and honestly, as there can be no spiritual progress in reconciliation until they are.

The questions are asked as it is the contention of trustees and the Ministry Overseer, that we are dealing with Jezebel, not with Clive, hence our constant references to the “Ministry at Barry”.

The e mails sent to us have in our view all the traits of Jezebel. We are fully convinced that Clive has been taken over by Jezebel, will not accept that there are those in the Church to oversee activity, and as soon as this occurred, he left. We believe this to be classic Jezebel.

 

Jezebel Meaning 1        

‘chaste’ or ‘loving kindness’

 

The physical Jezebel showed loving kindness to Ahab; that is why he did not divorce her. She was also loving & kind to the prophets of Baal & Ashtoreth. Even today, this spirit brings false love & false kindness into churches. It is God who is love & kindness; we do not need to import this!

Jezebel Meaning 2        

 ‘Where is the Prince?’

 

NB we are kings, seated with Christ in heavenly places. Jesus is the King of kings. But Jezebel will say “Where is that prince in you?” “Show them who you are!” This is pride. It is the same as Satan did with Jesus at the end of his 40-day fast. “If you are the Son of God…” Jezebel questions our position in God. Do not listen to Jezebel; listen to the Word of God. We do not have to show who we are. The demonic forces already know! Pride is such an evil (Proverbs – ‘it goeth before destruction’)

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In this letter, rather than humility, there is a pride, the writer is above you, “I can do this and that, why don’t you” – I don’t want people under the influence of Jezebel to pray for me – but the letter from a superior writer goes against my desire because he knows better.

Jezebel Meaning 3       

 ‘not exalted’ –

 

This is false humility. The same spirit on the one hand will trigger your pride; on the other, will show you as a ‘worm’ - this is irony! It brings false despondency “I can’t do anything!”

Jezebel Meaning 4      

Husbandlessness’ (no husband) –

 

You would say this only if someone was (a) a widow or (b) divorced/separated. You would not use it for a spinster. The spirit of Jezebel knows we have a husband/bridegroom – Jesus. So now, Christians influenced by Jezebel will say “I belong to the Body” - but say “I have not surrendered to the Head – why should I?” They will not obey Christ, or the apostolic leadership of the church. Therefore they are disobedient to proper Biblical leadership.

Left the ministry on hearing of responsibility to the ministry’s leadership and responsibilities – saying today his oversight is not on earth it would seem.

DEAR DAVID & LINDSAY,

AS FAR AS I AM AWARE ONLY YOU AND LINDSAY REMAIN OF THE ORIGINAL FOUNDERS OF LCMI SINCE I UNDERSTAND BRIAN JOINED YOU LATER ALTHOUGH I DO NOT KNOW THE POSITION WITH MARJORIE.

I BELIEVE THAT BOTH YOU AND I BELIEVE IN THE REALITY OF THE INNER WITNESS/THIRD BLESSING. I AM PUZZLED HOW IT IS THAT YOU ARE NOT SEEING ELOHIM'S PROVISION OF RESOURCES , COMMITTED CO-WORKERS AND DIVINE APPOINTMENTS.

AS YOU HAVE STATED RESOURCES HAVE BEEN STOLEN BY THE AGENTS OF THE ENEMY BUT WE HAVE THE VICTORY OVER SATAN THROUGH CHRIST OUR SAVIOUR SO WHEN YOU NEED £16,000 AND ONLY RECEIVE £150.00 I BELIEVE SOMETHING IS WRONG SICE GOD IS ALL KNOWING.

WHEN I GO TO VENUES AND FUNDRAISE AND AT THE SAME TIME BE A WITNESS FOR CHRIST I RAISE MORE THAN £10.00 AN HOUR PLUS HAVE MANY DIVINE APPOINTMENTS. 

IF YOU AND THOSE WHO ARE SYMPATHETIC TO YOU IN YOUR LOCALITY AND EVEN FURTHER AFIELD DID THE SAME THING I BELIEVE THE PROBLEMS OF LCMI WOULD DISAPPEAR. IF 3 PEOPLE WENT TO ONLY ONE VENUE FOR ONLY ONE DAY WEEKLY FOR ONLY 5 HOURS THE MINISTRY WOULD HAVE AN INCOME OF £150.00 WEEKLY PLUS MANY DIVINE CONTACTS ESTABLISHING A CHRISTIAN ARMY.

I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER YOU HAVE BEEN RUNNING THE SATURDAY PENTECOSTAL MEETINGS WHICH WOULD HAVE MINISTERED THE TRUTH TO THOSE THAT NEEDED IT AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN BRINGING IN OFFFERINGS.


YOU ONLY NEED A VENUE WITH AN OPEN DOOR TO DO THIS. I ALSO DO NOT KNOW WHETHER YOU ESTABLISHED THE DRY CLEANING AGENCY WHICH WOULD BE ANOTHER SOURCE OF INCOME.

ALSO YOU HAVE A MULTITUDE OF CONTACTS INCLUDING BISHOP STEPHEN WHO IS NOT SHORT OF MONEY APPARENTLY , SO WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE NOT SUPPORTING YOU ?

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU ALTHOUGH YOU SAY YOU DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO PRAY FOR YOU AND LCMI , BUT THIS IS AN ISSUE WHERE WE DISAGREE.

ALTHOUGH I AM VERY BUSY I AM SENDING YOU THIS EMAIL TO HELP YOU AND BECAUSE I CARE.


YOURS SINCERELY
 
Clive

Also there is a major control here in that Clive is praying for us to “be in the right place” which means we are not to the thinking in my view of Jezebel. It is this kind of prayer I have shown opposition to, which in my view is Jezebellic control prayer.

 

DEAR DAVID AND FELLOW TRUSTEES,

AS YOU KNOW I INFORMED YOU ON 09/07/2018 OF MY DECISION TO RESIGN FROM BEING A TRUSTEE OF LIFE CHANGING MINISTRIES INTERNATIONAL CHURCH SOUTH CHESHIRE TRUST REGISTERED CHARITY NUMBER 1065192.

AS WAS REQUESTED I DID NOT SEND YOU THIS LETTER OF RESIGNATION TO HELP THE CHARITY COMPLETE THE PURCHASE OF 23 , 25 AND 27 GEORGE STREET , WHITHORN WHICH I BELIEVE HAS STILL NOT TAKEN PLACE.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE CHARITABLE TRUST'S SOLICITOR HELENA FOX AND AS A RESULT NOW KNOW IT IS OK FOR ME TO RESIGN SO I CAN BE FREE TO SERVE ELOHIM AS I AM LEAD.

I AM STILL PRAYING FOR YOU ALL TO BE IN THE RIGHT PLACE BATTLING AND OVERCOMING SATAN.

SHALOM , VICTORY AND BLESSINGS

Clive

REV CLIVE S BATE

 

I have received these prophetic words:

Word from the Lord through David P Griffiths, 05/09/18

“The Activity of Jezebel”

“Jezebel loves to steal the vineyard of ministries that do not belong to her, but regards as her inheritance.

“She therefore has to find an Ahab, that will manifest the traits of Absalom, so as to bring about a control which is not of God, but is of the betrayal of Lucifer.

“Lucifer looked to take over the vineyard of heaven, & I saw him cast out like lightning, for he had betrayed Me & his heavenly Father, his Maker.

“So, the Jezebel today will look to take over the vineyards of heaven on earth, that have been brought about by the visions of others, & look for position over prophets & apostles who have founded ministry vineyards all over the world. She treats these vineyards as her own, & takes them over under her control.

“The big Jezebel in the world is the Roman Catholic church, which places people under its control through the confession box ministry. Wherever there is trouble & strife in a ministry fellowship, there will always be a Jezebel at the root of it.

“Such as it has been at Barry, such as it has been within the nation, with its coming under the EU banner that has the Jezebellic controls of Rome at the root of it. In every area of trouble & strife, there will be a Jezebel ministry at the root of it, with the woman Jezebel luring the unsuspecting Ahab/Absalom under her control.

“Oh, as apostle Suresh has pointed out on numerous occasions, she will lure with loving-kindness, ‘building up the confidence’ of the unsuspecting Ahab/Absalom, building up the confidence to such an extent that pride comes in, & with that pride, the Ahab/Absalom can take over the visions of others, for he can run the ministry far better. For he is the only minister doing the will of God, as he looks to lure others under his trap of apparent prayer. However, the prayers that come are the prayers of control & manipulation, of correcting others on how they should behave, rather than accept the pattern that I gave to the Church.

“In thy local Kirk, the pattern of prayer that I gave is practised, in exalting God (‘Our Father, which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name’

 

“And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. 3 Give us day by day our daily bread. 4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.” Luke 11:2-4) & examining oneself, rather than that which may be the specks of others.

 

“You see, a Jezebel prayer emphasizes the ministry & control of others, rather than the examination of self. You see, the Jezebel, like the confession box, offers prayers to others so as to transfer the devilish kingdom over the saints of God; & should those saints have one inch of pride, she will look to build that up to 6 inches, to 12 inches, & so forth, till the Ahab/Absalom is so convinced of his own righteousness, he cannot express his faults one to another, & cannot come to the table of the Lord, having examined himself, which is the base of reconciliations, the place of godly healing.

 

“So, the Jezebel lures into the pride, & it is her who gives direction. It is her who lures into her palace, so that the Ahab/Absalom can go back & steal the fruit of other ministries.

“You see, in the Constitution is the emphasis on the Zadok priesthood, which primarily ministers unto God; whereas those of Eli minister to each other. But when Jezebel comes in, there is an emphasis on the ministry to the vulnerable, on people who need help, which she will readily give; but that help is only given with the loss of individual identity, for now that person is under her control.

“So Jezebels commonly set about taking over the lives of the vulnerable, which is how you see Britain being run at this time, where the people’s choice has been taken away by unelected officials, under the control of a giant Jezebel; & such as you have in ministry.

“I am the Lord, who changes not; but a minister who changes suddenly, will have been ministered to by a Jezebel, out to steal the fruit of ministries all around, rather than have fruit of her own. For Jezebel is not interested in building from foundations she has set, but will wait until others have built those foundations, & treat them as her inheritance, her Ahab going around rapidly, undermining the ministries of others, in view of her taking ultimate control.

 

“Such is the EU, luring vulnerable countries into its claws, controlling them, & taking away their sovereignty & wealth; & such as you have had in your ministry, time after time after time, that you have to build afresh, for your ministry has been stolen, as indeed has the Bible College of Wales in Swansea, the Pentecostal denominations, evangelical groupings, that now have bibles that change constantly, with victims of Jezebel all over the so-called ‘Church,’ which is why even Christian employers can no longer trust the apparent Christian brother or sister, for they are under Jezebel’s control of constant change. The Nestle-Aland Committee constantly change the doctrines of the Bible, now denying the deity of Christ. For Jezebel looks to take away the authority of the prophet, just as Lucifer looked to take away My authority from heaven.

“The result of all this? The casting out of the kingdom, for the victim becomes under Lucifer’s control, & is no longer connected to the vine; & so therefore becomes as the withered tree. The gates of hell cannot prevail against my Church; but as I told Adam in the Garden, there is a tree one should not be connected to, for the lure of the apple (commonly depicted as an apple in the Garden of Eden) is there for those who will fall to the lure of Jezebel, the present-day serpent in the garden, the results of which remains the same today.

“Jezebel presents the apple of pride, saying ‘You should be doing this, you should be doing that,’ which becomes the message of the Ahab/Absalom, for covenant-breaking is the agenda of Jezebel, the agenda of chaos, for as the palace of Ahab & Jezebel is today physically in Samaria, so comes the lives of those who succumb to Jezebel’s claws.

“Such is My word to you today. You are to make this public at the given time, under My direction, & share this at this time with Suresh, Dr. Oliver, Brian, & the one affected by this also in Barry.

“I will direct a Courtroom of God programme, which will be about the Barry ministry, on what has gone wrong here, the one in the dock not being the flesh & blood, but Jezebel herself, who should be confronted publicly on that programme, that shall be entitled ‘The Great Satan of the World,’ but only to human eyes, but not to God’s. For thou shalt take control, in My name, of movements stolen, of countries stolen, of families stolen, throughout the world, & return those ministries, countries, & families back to those who uphold the landmarks.

 

“Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set.”                   

[Proverbs 22:28]

 

“You can share this with others as I lead.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Word from the Lord through David P Griffiths, 08/09/18

“The Covenant-breakers of the Last Days are the Victims of Jezebel”

“[Instruction (not to be included in main prophecy): Do not be alarmed over what is happening at Barry. It is all going to come out into the open, the darkness having to face the light].

WE BELIEVE THIS TO BE NOW!

“The key aspects here are the 3 questions:-

“(1) Have you been ministered to by a woman?

“(2) Has that woman given direction word ‘from God’?

“(3) Are you prepared to make your accusations before witnesses?

“Now, the answers to these questions, if covered up, are because the control over the victim is in secret; for the control has brought about a personality & inner change, that controls the victim to do things he would not normally have done. For now you have an Ahab obsessed with taking over the ministry of others. Rather than having apostolic & prophetic foundations of his own, his foundation is in the Jezebel, whose foundation is in the antichrist, on whom there is no conviction, hence there is no repentance.

“The true believer is very open to his/her faults; for by being so, the king of glory can enter the empty vessel. ‘I of mine own self can do nothing,’ saith the Lord in John 5:30. For within the ministry of the true believer, there is no pride; but the victim of Jezebel is determined to destroy all that which is apostolic & prophetic, for those foundations bring responsibility, of which the victim has reneged. The prophets & apostles are left with the bills of the former promises of the victim of the Jezebel. In many cases, this involves stirring up discontent within a congregation, discontent causing many to break covenant with foundation ministries. This particularly happens when new projects are on the go. A new church building has been bought; a lease on the building has been undertaken; a new evangelistic outreach is about to begin.

“A Jezebel will target a victim just when everyone needs to stick together to fulfil a project. So we have covenant-breaking. This is widespread. Do I not warn of antichrists in my Word? You have them all around you. They come & make assurances & promises, & intend to keep them. But then the Jezebel comes in. She ministers to the victim. The victim accepts her word against the apostles & prophets, & elders of the ministry. The victim becomes obsessed with starting his own ministry, & controlling the lives of others rather than bringing the conditions for perfecting the saints so they can hear from God for themselves.

“They (meaning the Jezebel & the victim) deliberately choose vulnerable people to minister to, so that they can be under their control. They see themselves higher than those they minister to. Yet God supports the teaching of them becoming joint-heirs with Christ – an equal position. For when Jesus comes in, old things have passed away, & everything becomes new.

“But in this new Jezebel ministry, constant ministry has to be practised, so that the vulnerable person comes not under the control of God, but under the control of Jezebel & the antichrist. The Jezebel mesmerizes the victims, for this has become a major form of witchcraft, making it difficult for the victim to escape. Yet the questions have to be asked, for if they are truthfully answered, there is hope for the victim. But if they are not, you know a secret agenda is about to take place.

“But I have given unto thee words of knowledge & wisdom, for with these thou shalt overcome the Jezebel & the antichrist. For thou art open & transparent, & prepared to answer all questions, prepared to be at the knees of Jesus, giving one’s life to the full to the Saviour. But the Jezebel has built up the pride in the victim. He can now do lots of things, & becomes driven & obsessive, whereas the true believer waits upon his Saviour, knowing the word of instruction shall come; whereas the victim of Jezebel obsessively tells God what to do. For ministry is constant, whereas the ministry of Christ Jesus was completed on the cross, & in His resurrection; & it is for the sinner to receive that victory, through his/her repentance ay the cross, & be taken up to the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, from where the authority of the believer is obtained & practised into ministries of plurality, of apostles, of prophets, of evangelists, pastors & teachers, elders, deacons, & so forth.

“But with the Jezebel ministry, everyone else is wrong. For only the Jezebel has the ‘truth,’ but this ‘truth’ is a lie. ‘I shall be like the Most High,’ said Lucifer, for now the victim comes under the claws of one who come to kill, steal, & destroy.

“[Now, instruction: On the front page, under the title ‘Voice of Prophecy,’ say ‘This paper is for all who have witnessed the work of Jezebel in their ministries. It is for ministries who have lost vast amounts of resources, as a result of covenant-breakers who have been victims of Jezebel.’].

“Now, there is a sub-title, ‘Overcoming the Jezebel.’ The Jezebel was defeated 2.000 years ago at the cross of Calvary; & it is this fact that you preach: the finished work of Christ. It with the finished work that you have the victory, whereas the Jezebel looks to continually work on the victim. For within Jezebel, it is a working salvation, rather than a finished one; the victim, by denying the finished work of Christ, being wide open to the devil & all his ways.

‘It is the finished work of Christ that is the foundation of any true ministry, the Nestle-Aland text being a working text, rather than a finished one. So this has given great scope for the Antichrist to operate. So, continuous work of ministry has become the norm in many Church fellowships, leaving them wide open for the Jezebel.

‘Through Bill & Gloria Gaither, I wrote the hymn, ‘It is Finished,’ & this is a hymn, a hymn with words that identified the work of the Antichrist. The Antichrist brings doubt & unbelief in the minds of many unbelievers, who fall victim to the antichrists & Jezebels. But Howard Goodman opened up before a television audience, confessing his faults to millions of people, & by so doing, defeated the devil.

‘It is in our weakness that we are strong; & I called thy ministry to gather at My table, & examine yourselves to God Himself. You partook of the elements of bread & wine, & from where came humility. For you know it was only through the body & blood of Christ that you were saved. You have no claim to personal pride. You only can be an empty vessel for God to fill. For God resists the proud, so the Jezebel builds up personal pride, in readiness for bringing down her victim to the lowest points of the earth, from where she has complete control. The victim’s life is in chaos. There is no more personal discipline, no more personal order. Godly administration is nowhere. The life is in chaos, & the Jezebel lures her victim, who becomes the manifestation of her own sexual lust & instability. Her Ahab is now fully under her control; whereas thy victory is at My table, which marks the finished work of Christ, the perfection of the believer who has allowed Christ to take complete control.’

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Use of Elohim over Jesus and no oversight in a Biblical sense.

As we hold the ministry credentials of Clive Bate we have put to the overseer and trustees, that we withdraw these due to covenant breaking, Jezebellic control and not upholding his legal responsibilities as a Trustee. This now has been approved.

Also God appoints people on earth to be overseers of ministries and it is clear Clive Bate is refusing this oversight both from us or anyone.

 

DPG responsibility for the Lease – in view of protecting a brother but is this the case now? Has Clive left the faith?

I originally took responsibility for the lease on the basis of protecting a brother from legal actions; however I do not see the ministry at Barry as being Christian anymore but one under the control of Jezebel, this my standing back from taking the responsibility, which with the proposed invoice the Ministry at Barry will have to take over.

 

Final Note of caution to readers; the latter part of this report relates to the “Woman Jezebel.” In no way in modern life should this be taken as a woman as one knows a woman in everyday life, but a particular spirit, the Bible declaring our battle not to be against “flesh and blood” and so the spiritual part of the report needs to be read in this context.

 

Ephesians 6:12 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Bible College of Wales Original Vision trains women equally into ministry, a policy going back to the 1920’s when this commonly was not the case.

The Very Significant Intercessions through Brian Mason at Barry - CLICK HERE

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